The virus, dubbed “Cognitive Diss” does not yet have a patch developed, though antivirus teams are said to be hard at work.
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May 4th, 2007 · 34 Comments · Miscellania
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The virus, dubbed “Cognitive Diss” does not yet have a patch developed, though antivirus teams are said to be hard at work.
Tags: wot
Adirondack Almanack // May 5, 2007 at 8:58 am
Are you aware that we’ve killed more than a half million Iraqi civilians?
Have you no shame for that?
TourPro // May 5, 2007 at 12:10 pm
I think the real shame is ignoring the plight of women in these countries. Even Les seems to recognize something is wrong. Whoa.
These people have been in a state of semi-war long before we were there and likely long after. It’s really only when there is a dictator or colonial power that the killing slows down. Personally, I think that this is the best chance they’ve ever had to join civil society as we know it. Too bad it looks like they are going to blow it. Anyway, I’m not sure about that half-million number and I’d have to admit that I don’t have any shame.
Adirondack Almanack // May 5, 2007 at 4:26 pm
If you were truly concerned about the plight of women in Iraq, not just as a political tactic, you would have opposed an invasion and war that has killed so many. A few isolated attacks on Shites hardly provides an excuse to disstablize a country to such an extend that more than half a million innocent civilians are killed. You say that they were in a “state of semi-war” – prove it! There is not one shred of evidence of a terrorist attack in Iraq before 2003.
Pretty typical of the apologists. How about stop looking for excuses and own up to your government’s role in the destruction of what had been the most peaceful and westernized Islamic nation in the world.
Doubt the numbers? It’s pretty clear based on actual evidence produced by, among others, Johns Hopkins University
Or do you fancy yourself a demographer as well as someone who knows what’s best for people thousands of miles away who live in a place you’ve never been to and who speak a language you don’t understand?
I suspect you wouldn’t be such an armchair patriot if your family’s lives and homes were at stake.
TourPro // May 5, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Adirondack Almanack // May 5, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Are you kidding? Do you actually believe that a website based on compiled news reports has more validity than a study by demographers at Johns Hopkins School of Public Health?
No wonder your understanding of the conflict is so distorted.
“The mortality survey used well-established and scientifically proven methods for measuring mortality and disease in populations. These same survey methods were used to measure mortality during conflicts in the Congo, Kosovo, Sudan and other regions. For the Iraq study, data were collected from 47 randomly selected clusters of 40 households each. At each household selected, trained Iraqi surveyors collected data on the number of births and deaths that occurred in the household between January 1, 2002, and June 30, 2006. To be considered a household member, the deceased had to have lived in the home at least three months prior to death. When interviewers asked to see a death certificate at households reporting a death, it was presented in 92 percent of instances. The survey recorded 1,474 births and 629 deaths among 12,801 people surveyed. The data were then applied to the 26.1 million Iraqis living in the survey area.”
“The results from the new study closely match the finding of the group’s October 2004 mortality survey. The earlier study, also published in The Lancet, estimated over 100,000 additional deaths from all causes had occurred in Iraq from March 2003 to August 2004. When data from the new study were examined, it estimated 112,000 deaths for the same time period of the 2004 study. The new survey also found that the number of deaths attributed to coalition forces had declined in 2006, though overall households attributed 31 percent of deaths to the coalition. Responsibility could not be attributed in 45 percent of the violent deaths.”
“According to the researchers, the overall rate of mortality in Iraq since March 2003 is 13.3 deaths per 1,000 persons per year compared to 5.5 deaths per 1,000 persons per year prior to March 2003. This amounts to about 2.5 percent of Iraqi’s population having died as a consequence of the war. To put the 654,000 deaths in context with other conflicts, the authors note that during the Vietnam War an estimated 3 million civilians died overall; the Congo conflict was responsible for 3.8 million deaths; and recent estimates are that 200,000 have died in Darfur over the past 31 months.”
Get a grip. Put your politics aside and start considering the facts objectively. If two and a half percent of our SOLDIERS were being killed you’d be beside yourself. We’re talking about innocent cilivians in Iraq – including at least 100,000 CHILDREN.
TourPro // May 5, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Eh, back in 1258 the Mongols really did a number on Baghdad. Hundreds of thousands died. Funny thing, seems Shi’a were complicitous with the invaders in the massacre of the Sunnis. Plus those pesky Mongols burned books.
Innocence is a social construct.
TourPro // May 6, 2007 at 6:41 am
Cognitive dissonance is a psychological term which describes the uncomfortable tension that comes from holding two conflicting thoughts at the same time, or from engaging in behavior that conflicts with one’s beliefs.
The referenced post points to the silence of the “left” regarding women’s issues in the Middle East.
Aquavelvajad is apparently both a pious muslim leader and horn-dog.
It really is not a surprise that these people are obsessed with sex.
Salvato says it best, “This is the kind of ignorant violence that keeps the civilized world from looking at the cultures of the Middle East with any seriousness. Regardless of whether you are educated on the very real threat posed by radical Islam or a proponent of a moderate Islamic revolution within their religion, this instance of barbarity can only be described as religious persecution. It is backward, uneducated and unacceptable.”
Heard about http://www.ukgaynews.org.uk/Archive/2006may/0402.htm” title=”Ahmed’s Story – A Cruel, Barbaric Death” target=”_blank”>Ahmed? Apparently he was “murdered to cleanse the community“. I’m guessing all his former customers are now feeling some dissonance.
In another sickening twist, the author of the first article, Ali Hili, was arrested and brutally tortured. When he resisted the torture, he was threatened with rape by the police. These people are sick.
Building a BOMB into a girls SCHOOL.
Silence by MSM and the left.
Any shame I could possibly feel pales in comparison.
Adirondack Almanack // May 8, 2007 at 10:32 am
“Innocence is a social construct.”
So is guilt. That’s the point, you (having constructed the guilty – more than 600,000) are willing to sacrifice the lives of hundreds of thousands of women and children while you deplore using schools and the way they treat women in Iraq and Iran – talk about cognitive dissonance!
I don’t expect you to admit the errors of your “logic” in public; I only hope you have the self-awareness to admit them to yourself in private.
I bet you are not willing to sacrifice the women in your family for your (socially constructed) cause – so why are you willing to sacrifice others?
TourPro // May 8, 2007 at 12:46 pm
I’m not exactly sure what you are talking about. (BTW, if you allowed comments on that post, I bet it would be pretty entertaining.)
I’m very willing to sacrifice others for those I care about. And what exactly is my “cause”?
TourPro // May 8, 2007 at 2:14 pm
Adirondack Almanack // May 10, 2007 at 12:00 pm
I guess you’ve said all that needs to be said when you wrote:
“I’m very willing to sacrifice others for those I care about.”
You see, I believe that every person is human and not knowing or loving them doesn’t make them less human.
What if you would have loved them if you knew them?
What if they are actually someone deeply loved by someone you claim to love, but you just didn’t know it?
What if they are actually a close relative heretofore unknown to you?
What if they are actually decent human beings who simply don’t believe what you believe – like for instance, that our government should be theirs as well?
The kind of attitude your expressing is the kind of attitude the allows genocide. Hutu were willing to sacrifice Tutsi, Germans, French, etc., were willing to sacrafice Jews, Japanese were will willing to sacrifice Koreans, Chinese, and others. You are willing to sacrafice hundreds of thousands of Iraqi women and children for a cause your president decided was important.
The last thing I’m going to say on this topic is that the thinking you’re expressing – “people I know and love are more important that those I don’t” – is basically against the fundamental precepts of America.
It’s life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It’s not life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness so long as I love or agree with you.
If it was, your immigrant ancestors would still be barred from entry and your neighbors who have run you out of town a long time ago.
“Look inside yourself. Think about who you are and how you got to be who you are. Don’t believe you know everything and what is best for everyone.” – A Smart Guy I Know.
TourPro // May 10, 2007 at 12:50 pm
Dude, take a breather.
The point of the referenced blog post was about the silence of certain groups to both the plight of women and the threat of terrorism in general.
I think he’s your President too. He’s a two-time winner.
Actually, though it didn’t happen to my relatives, there was actually a ban on Chinese immigration for a long time. Later that was generously changed to a quota system.
Probably your ancestors were the only ones giving good tips at the local laundry, you know, being all enlightened and stuff. I’ll bet they were the first in line to defend their Oriental brethren when the local mob decided it was time to move them pesky Chinee a little further out of town.
For that, me and my kind will be forever grateful.
That said, I still like Hobbes more than Rousseau.
TourPro // May 11, 2007 at 8:04 am
“It is interesting to hear people voice surprise that the left would join forces with misogynistic, oppressive Islam. But it makes perfect sense. Both are a dogma, both require group think, both are collectivist, and both are entirely anti-individual. Both are totalitarian in nature. Perfect marriage. And to those shocked that feminists would go along, that too is Lenin/Marxist in origin.”
The Growing Islamist/Leftist Alliance
TourPro // May 16, 2007 at 11:17 pm
The Subjection of Islamic Women
And the fecklessness of American feminism.
TourPro // May 17, 2007 at 3:53 pm
National Organization of Women….Where are you NOW?
In this case, I will admit to a slight amount of diss. I actually wouldn’t mind owning one of these bicycles.
TourPro // May 23, 2007 at 12:49 pm
BRUTALITY of special forces against “Bad Hijabs”
TourPro // Jun 7, 2007 at 11:21 am
At the same time…
Iranian Solution To Infidelity & Extramarital Sex: One-Hour Temporary (Polygamous) Imam-Approved One-Hump Marriages
TourPro // Jun 13, 2007 at 10:48 am
Iran moves to execute porn stars
TourPro // Jun 14, 2007 at 7:23 am
U.S. embassy in Syria warns of sex attacks
A bunch of sexually repressed (probably they just can’t get any) horndogs. I guess it’s no fun to rape someone wearing a veil.
TourPro // Jul 25, 2007 at 7:19 pm
A new critique of the 2004 Lancet Iraq death toll study
TourPro // Sep 20, 2007 at 2:53 pm
Iraqi National Police Break Up al Qaeda Rape, Terror Cell in Samarra
Homosexual al Qaeda Member arrested, confesses to mass kidnapping and raping of Iraqi women
I’m sure the MSM, National Organization of Women, Code Pink, and various other “humanists” will be reporting this story with vigor. /sarc
TourPro // Nov 15, 2007 at 3:48 pm
Saudi punishes gang rape victim with 200 lashes
This kind of thing is simply ridiculous. Who will stand up for these women?
TourPro // Dec 19, 2007 at 8:11 am
Women’s organizations — This is a pet peeve of mine …
WHY NO CAMPAIGNS AGAINST SAUDI ARABIA’S INSTITUTIONALIZED SEXISM?
Where are the feminists against the Saudis?
Report: Saudi King Pardons Teen Female Rape Victim Sentenced to 200 Lashes
TourPro // Jan 3, 2008 at 11:16 am
At the time of this posting, not one single left-leaning site has referred to this Honor Killing.
TourPro // Jan 8, 2008 at 8:48 am
It’s not a War on Terror, it’s a War on Women.
TourPro // Jan 22, 2008 at 8:53 am
Saudi allow women to stay in hotels without a male guardian
What would Big Gay Al say about this?
TourPro // Feb 2, 2008 at 9:28 am
Mentally Retarded Women Used in Bombings
How far will these people go?
Women are treated like property and slaughtered in the name of “honor”.
Now this. Using the most vulnerable as tools of destruction. In a pet market. PETA? I think not – too busy. Uh, AAIDD – well, they aren’t running any sexy ‘challenged’ Next-door contest, but I wouldn’t expect any official statement anytime soon.
How about NOW?
“We help people name the violence in their lives by putting new words in their vocabularies–domestic violence, date rape, sexual harassment, child sexual abuse.”
Cool, let’s add, “involuntary detonation” to the list.
A recent press release leaves some to question their standards:
“The National Organization for Women has enormous respect and admiration for Sen. Edward Kennedy (D- Mass.). For decades Sen. Kennedy has been a friend of NOW, and a leader and fighter for women’s civil and reproductive rights, and his record shows that.”
I know, being left to drown in a 67 Oldsmobile is not the same as getting a bomb strapped on you. Still, dead is dead.
When history looks back on this particular episode of human cruelty, let’s remember who is actually helping Islamic women.
TourPro // Feb 11, 2008 at 7:52 am
A question of honour: Police say 17,000 women are victims every year
Apparently just the ‘tip of the iceberg’ and this is only in Britain. We should change the ‘War on Terror’ to the ‘War on Terror against Women’. I’m sure Code Pink would be right there on the frontlines.
Violations of ‘Islamic teachings’ take deadly toll on Iraqi women
“We warn against not wearing a headscarf and wearing makeup. Those who do not abide by this will be punished. God is our witness, we have notified you.”
And in other news, Americans are war criminals, slavers, greedy, poiseners, poisenees, economic exploiters, protectionists, irrational Osama-haters, and of course, we unjustly eliminated Hussein.
TourPro // Feb 12, 2008 at 7:11 am
Saudis clamp down on valentines
We’re switching our Valentine’s gifts to whatever color IS available in Saudi Arabia, just to mess with them.
TourPro // Feb 14, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Those crazy Saudis, what will they come up with next?
TourPro // Feb 24, 2008 at 6:56 am
At a certain point, even the men will start rebelling Right?
TourPro // Aug 14, 2008 at 10:57 am
Al-Qa’eda in Iraq alienated by cucumber laws and brutality
I’m sure all those “men” are putting them to good use.
TourPro // Aug 20, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Saudi girl drinks bleach to escape marriage
Is this not enough to warrant worldwide ridicule for “The Religion of Peace”?
TourPro // Feb 4, 2009 at 7:44 pm
ABC News: Nondisclosure Cited in Iraq Casualties Study
I believe the “study” is no longer.
Then there’s this bit of sickness:
Iraqi woman had 80 women raped then recruited as suicide bombers
Al-Qaeda in gay rape horror